responsibility

Thread Topic: responsibility

happygolucky44
Joined: Mar 27, 09
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2009-06-07 21:01:40
Alright I know responsibility means something different to everyone. So starting a live debate on its definition could be rather interesting and enlightening. Here I have some choices, and they are not easy! Chose the choice that best represents a mature demonstration of responsibility, as it means to you. There is no “correct” choice that I know of; perhaps each of these people are equally as irresponsible as they can get. But this is “best fit” question. Again let use know your reasoning! Thanks!

So let me know what you think and more importantly why you think it!

A parent who robs the market to steal food for their family. But makes sure that they (the parent) eats first when food is procured – and sometimes doesn’t get enough to share.

A drunk who has lost both family and work due to the addiction, but refuses to drive drunk and promote alcohol. There is a consciousness about the fault – alcoholism - but no proactive solution.

Someone who attends every “Feed the Homeless” event to the point of neglecting friends and family. A stranger to all but the strangers.

Someone who will not be promoted because of their constant refusal to accept greater assignments because family time is too important.

A religious person so pious as to live as close to a sin-free life as possible, but refuses to have contact with other humans “I don’t want to be polluted by the weak and dirty”. This person is nearly a neutral player in life.
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singingteacher
Joined: Apr 14, 09
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2009-06-07 23:51:21
"Someone who will not be promoted because of their constant refusal to accept greater assignments because family time is too important." I'll start with this one because I feel he or she is the most responsible out of the group. This person has his or her priorities set from day one. Family comes before work, even if it means foregoing a promotion or pay raise. Too many families are destroyed because work becomes to important and there is no time to work on the day-to-day relationships which are required to have a successful family. Workaholism is rampant in America. We want to make so much money, to beat the Jones or to have that one new thing. It seems there is always a new thing to replace the "old" new thing.
The next responible one would be the drunk. Alcoholism is a disease, psychological and physical. Once a person has been heavily drinking for more than two months, intervention and medical attention is required to help the person to stop needing alcohol. The fact that there is a conscious decision not to drive while drunk shows at least some initiative to protect non-drinkers from the destructive habit. Too bad state and federal funding has been taken from the facilities that truly helped people stop drinking because of the few that became greedy for money...anyway...
The next one would the the "feed the Homeless" because he or she is trying to support those people who really cannot provide for themselves. The sad thing is that the cause became the person's world and he or she couldn't separate enough of his/herself for family and friends. This is like a fanatic or zealot who gives everything to their cause and holds nothing back to sustain themselves emotionally.
The last one would be the parent. Obviously I do not think they should eat first and this would go against what I would do if I had to steal to eat. My children come first. I am willing to go hungry to ensure they have the proper nurishment and care. That parent shows selfishness and the lack of education by eating first. Children, especially from ages 3 to 10, need the most nutrition to gurantee proper growth and development.
I leave the religious person out of the responsibility equation because by not doing anything, they are a non-entity. Depending on the religion, will depend on whether they are truly following what they say they believe. This "religious" person is just existing and doesn't have a life.
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TalentWasted
Joined: May 4, 09
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2009-06-08 04:29:13
I concur with Teach on all of them on the order
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singingteacher
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2009-06-09 23:19:05
Thanks, Talend. It was an interesting question to answer. What are your views on responibility? And we'll take it one further...what are your views on loyalty?
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TalentWasted
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2009-06-10 00:56:22
responsibility for mean i guess would have to be, if you commit to something you are responsible for it, with anything really. the things we choose and choose not to do we are responsible for whatever outcome may come to happen.

as for loyalty goes, you can not be truely loyal to anything if you are not loyal to yourself, if that makes sense. basicaly you can not be true to anything or anyone if you are not true and honest with yourself.

unfortunatly I feel that loaylty and responsiblity are dying out in this stage of human history again. alot of people do not care for the out comes for their actions or inactions nor are most even being loyal to anyone. alot of people have become just selfish and could really care less for anyone else.

and for me that is really hard to deal with, espcially in for relationships.
Alot of woman and girls say they want a guy to treat them right, who would do anything for them and love them, but as soon as the get one, the unapreciate them, put them down, and become unloyal to them, and even him the guy. and then they turn it around and blame the great guy that they had and make it to it was their fault for their actions and choices. even thought he was 100% faithful and devoted. atleast from what I have experianced so far.
I personally feel we are at that stage of where the Roman empire callapsed, where greed, lust and curruption ran rampit, the next stage is the fall...then the dark ages.

but all of that is just my opinion
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happygolucky44
Joined: Mar 27, 09
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2009-06-10 19:41:17
I think your opinion is right on. Unfortuantly.
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singingteacher
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2009-06-10 21:02:46
You are so correct Talent. We history buffs/guros can compare all the great civilizations' downfalls to what is going on in our country as we speak. Too many people don't care or don't know about what is going on with our government. As dealing with relationships, Women and men have lost the ability to have meaningful, trusting relationships. We have become a fly-by the night kind of people unfortunately (for the most part). And for those of us who actually know how to have meaningful, loyal relationships, it is hard to find others who have the same opinions and feelings on the matter. Would ya'll agree?
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TalentWasted
Joined: May 4, 09
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2009-06-10 21:37:18
I would agree to that and also add to those who look for those meaningful relationships end up getting f---ed up by thsoe who do not care
I feel now that real love is just a myth, a fantasy to which are all looking for but what it has so magical and happy ever after, those childhood stories have corrupted the minds of today, because the do no show the trails and tribulations it takes to make a real relationship work. the fights. fights are a good thing to have in a relationship, it forces each other to grow and evolve. but because of the fantsy that has become "love" when a fight does happen people would rather just run instead of take the challenge to grow and overcome. they believe that real love there will be no fights.

again that is my opinion
and for me this has become a huge realization
I spent 5 years of my life to build it around the person I know i truely do love, the person I am still evolving because of. but because of the abusive past she has endured, instead of facing the challenges she runs to a most nieve kid, and I say kid because he is monthes older then her oldest son which is 19.
She runs because I know more about her then anyone else in the world aside from herself. and that scares the crap out of her, so it is better to have a fasade of a relationship with some kid half way accross the wold that barely even knows her.
I gave up alot for her, alot to be with her, alot to be there for her.
and her fear of having a healthy relationship she has sabotoged it. like she told me from day one. She feels she is not worth of love, not worth to be with someone who is good hearted.
And now, she is trying to blame me for her decisions because of her fear. It breaks my heart. I do not give my heart away easy because I know how easy it is for people to toss it aside like garbage in this day and age. but I took risk after risk with her, and I was still there no matter how much she tried to push me away. but since her dad died in march and I could not be there...she has been more self destructive in the relationship since. Now she wants nothing to do with me.
And as stupid as I am begining to think. I will still be here for her if she needs me.

Ladies and gentalmen THAT is real love. to be there for a person even if they want nothing to with you. to continue to stay by their side even when they are destroying and pushing the people who really care about them. To have faith in them and to encourage them and their dreams and the things they deserve even if they do not think they do.

And because of this. It will be my curse. To love a woman and I may never be with her again.

Sorry this subject has struck a sensitive cord with me..
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arwen
Joined: Feb 24, 09
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2009-06-16 03:00:36
oh my god talent... i had no idea it was that bad... just know ur always loved over here, and that the site is now up, so it may make it easier talking to people who actually do care about you. ur really awesome, talent. u make me feel so much better cuz its so easy to open up to you, even online. not to mention ur really good looking...
but really talent. you should have no problem finding a girl who will treat you right. ur smart, funny, goodlooking, and really witty. girls lap that s--- up in men. we arent all bitches. i may have done some s--- i regret, but im not a bitch, and i never really lead guys on for long. i just like guys too fast. i learn everytime though. before the whole 4 guy thing, i hadnt ever cheated, and i havent even after. andy dumped me after all, even though he was after all that and didnt even know about it, but he had a legit reason. he wasnt ready. seriously. hes so busy
anyways back on to u. all u can do about wolfprincess33 is to let time pass and become friends with alot more people. that way, those friends may turn into something more and u actually have a better chance at relationships, cuz most lasting relationships evolve from friendships
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singingteacher
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2009-06-20 01:39:40
Wow, Talent, like Arwen, so young to be so old. I agree that the fairy tale image of "love" has clouded over people's views of what could be if they would be willing to fight. I can say this though, I truly loved the father of my children. Loved him to the point to let him go because he wanted to leave. I loved him with my entire being and would have done anything for him. I was left ripped apart in the aftermath while he moved on. Left to the pitying stares and sighs of people who knew he was the only person I had been with and yet allowed him to spread rumors that I was a whore and liar and cheater. That, instead of considering the fact that I was away at school and he was living with another woman, I cheated him out of his dreams and took away his freedom. I was left taking care of two children by a man who did not have the decency to even stand up and say they were his. It can make you bitter. Probably more said here than I have said in a while on this subject. SO yeah, you can love until it hurts but there comes a point where it can dwindle and you will be able to move on. It took me four years to come to that conclusion. Four years of tears, swallowed dreams and hopes for his return...four years of thinking that if I had just been better or less smart or more something, we could have been together. Then, I woke up. Realized I was worth more, worth better. If the person we give our hearts to isn't worthy of what we make ourselves, then we can never have what love is really supposed to be. I don't know if i've made sense with this or not. I don't want to come across as bitter or angry because I'm not anymore but I was. It is very upsetting to read about a friend having been done the same way and not be able to give a comforting hug, a kind word, and a good beer. I'll say this, Talent, when you find the one you will spend your life with, she'll be one in a million, because your one in a billion. And, that relationship will be one to look at and say that is the real deal and worth fighting for...
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TalentWasted
Joined: May 4, 09
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2009-06-20 02:42:21
It made alot of sense, i am actually going through that. I think it is because this has been a long time coming that, it is been easier for me to realize this stuff :/ but I will never hate her or wish her bad, I will always love her for who she is, no matter what.
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singingteacher
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2009-06-20 02:55:18
I can agree that it is hard to really hate someone you've truly loved. But we may try from time to time.
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arwen
Joined: Feb 24, 09
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2009-06-20 06:11:39
shes rigt, of course. i think we're all too old for our years. life has made irregularly difficult hardships with relationships with us
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